Fire Lord Azula ([info]peoplesprincess) wrote,
@ 2008-09-13 17:19:00
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Entry tags:area 42: ooc, ddd: ooc, trial by fries: ooc

How's My Driving?
Anon commenting is ON, and I'm not going to take your crit any less seriously if you decide to take advantage of this (or if you're just a lurker or something)- unless, of course, your purpose for remaining anonymous is to simply bash and offer no advice on how to improve. Concrit isn't trolling in my mind; "LOL GTFO U SUXX0R" is. Also, please specify where you're reading/critiquing my portrayal- whether your comments about DDD!Azula, [info]atladressing!Azula, Dear Multiverse!Azula... etc, etc.

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[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-02 03:01 pm UTC (link)
Okay, I shoulda done this a while back, buuuut...I was too chickenshit, so here goes.


I think, don't be upset or anything, that you should put more effort into your tags when it comes to RLs. It was extremely difficult to keep up with mood rings/ice cream RL. I thought about dropping it so many times because you weren't giving me anything to work with, really. It was always like "Azula glanced over the mood rings, curious if they were magical or not. 'Are these common in your world?' she asked inquisitively."


Now, I'm a fan of long tags myself, and I've always been. I try to put at least two paragraphs of about four to six sentences each in my tags. I AM NOT SAYING "LOL DO IT JUST LIKE I DO UR DOIN' IT WRONG GOD WTF" at all. What I'm saying is, you need to put more into your prose so people can actually bounce off of you. Tell us what she's thinking and feeling, put some more into it. Like I said, I like to be very thorough. If you only put in three or four sentences about what she's thinking, then it's a lot easier to tag. For instance, if you were to write a tag like:


"Azula snorted. This woman said she wasn't a prostitute, but how could she not be? Apparently the only thing she ever thought about was sex, sex, and more sex. She'd seen her posts on the community and in her own journal about her boyfriend, but she also apparently went to other men for sexual partners. How could she not be a prostitute, even if she wasn't standing on the street corners in tacky clothes and smoking cigarettes and being a sad, lonely, pathetic excuse for a woman? Azula knew she'd never let herself come to that; but she didn't particularly care one way or the other.


'Blah blah blah.'


She still thought she was a prostitute anyway; she didn't care about her at all, but that wasn't her problem if she stuck up for herself like that."


And then it would be SO much easier to reply, to bounce off of it, with something like:


"If Vanessa had known was Azula was thinking, she'd immediately have launched into a tirade about the differences between slavery and prostitution. Or, she would have, a few weeks ago. Now she was just weary of debating it with everyone and everything. Birkin knew she wasn't a prostitute, Stein knew it, all the people that she was really close to knew it, and they never judged her on it, so what did it matter?


'Blah blah blah.'


And she smiled at her, even if it was fake."


...am I making any sense here or am I blowing smoke out my ass?

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[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-02 03:13 pm UTC (link)
YOU ARE MAKING SENSE, AND I LOVE YOU FOR BEING THE FIRST PERSON TO USE THIS. 8D

I think some of it is just differences in roleplay style, but I do know that I sometimes have issues with giving tags enough substance (Setine mentioned it to me in the last HMD). In general, I'm a fan of short tags, and I try to steer away from the whole "if Azula knew what Vanessa was thinking, she would have said..." and "if Vanessa had voiced her thoughts out loud, Azula's response would have been..." because, to me, it seems a little excessive, and tons of exposition in every tag just feels unnatural IMHO. BUT. If the person I'm playing with really prefers that style, I don't really have much ~*against*~ it, and I don't mind using it. I'll keep this in mind should we ever do an RL again. 8) And if the issue still comes up, I really hope that you'll contact me as it's happening. If you had told me in an OOC note (or a PM, whatever) that you were having trouble responding to something because of lack of substance, I could totally have edited it for you, no harm done. <3

... And if anything I've said in this comment doesn't make any sense feel free to tell me to clarify adfasdfjk. XD

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[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-02 03:21 pm UTC (link)
OH GOD I SAW THAT ICON AND WAS SO SCARED YOU WERE GOING TO BEAT ME DOWN ;____; AZULA WHY SO FUCKING SCARY.


Yeah, it does actually have to do with roleplay style, sure. I can dig that. But...like I was saying, it's really hard, because sometimes all you'd give me—I haven't seen any of your other RLs, so I'm just going off of ours, feel free to point me to another one and slap me in the face—and, like I said, I should've have used this DURING the RL, but, again, too chickenshit to use it, sorry about that, I do apologise. No, not EVERY tag has to have a billion bits of exposition in it. The reason I do so many RLs with Wesker, Birkin, Stein, and talk to Zechs all the time is they give me so much to bounce off of. Even if it takes a little longer for the tag to get to me, it's always, always worth the wait. Even if it's just a smut log or what have you, there's always something to go on, you know. I appreciate that. I'm not saying you're a bad tagger or anything...you tag extraordinarily fast, just like me, but sometimes it kinda can come off—to me, at least, and slap me again if you'd like, I can take it :|—that you're not so in tune with your character...? You play a wicked Azula from the few episodes of Avatar I've seen, and it's really commendable. DDD wouldn't be the same without, so please keep rocking the boat (I'M ON A BOAT MOTHER FUCKER DON'T YOU EVER FORGET) and don't drop her unless, like, you just can't deal with her anymore; I recognise she's a hard character to play with, but you are one of the few people I have ever seen in my...eight/nine years of RPing that can handle someone who's mentally unstable well, which I appreciate and that's like...something that means a LOT to me. Having an unstable mentality myself (baaaw crai more emo kid, i know, i know), I'm in a group where I can easily spot if you're doing it right or if you're doing it wrong, and you are very much doing it right. It's very commendable.


Whoa, I got off on a tangent like mad.


Uhm...I don't remember what I was saying, haha.



....I'll give you a sexy icon to make up for it. :|

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[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-02 03:34 pm UTC (link)
NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO GIVE ME CRIT, EVER *KILLS WITH ICON OMFG*

I'm not going to slap you pfffft. And yeah, the RL thing is definitely something I can work on if we ever end up doing one again. But are you talking about just RL tags, or are you including the first-person journal tags, too? Because if you are, that's something that hasn't been brought to my attention before, so I've never been aware that there was an issue-- and it's definitely something that I can keep an eye out for in the future. (If you're talking about solely RL stuff then ignore my comprehension fail.)

But yeah, this is definitely something that I can work on while tagging you. <3




... Did I use the word definitely enough in this comment definitely definitely definitely

Edited at 2009-07-02 03:35 pm UTC

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[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-02 03:38 pm UTC (link)
GODDAMNIT AZULA, STOP HATIN'.


I'd love to do an RL again! Especially if this pregnancy plot gets through, Vanessa's going to go into hiding and need to hang out with a shitton of people to get her mind off of every man in her life wanting her to abort it pffft. YEAH DRAMU AHEAD.


I was talking just about RLs, bb. I love you shit on the community, especially Vanessa and Ursa's talk about everything. THAT WAS GOLDEN. <33


Definitely so. Definitely.

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[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-02 03:44 pm UTC (link)
SORRY BB, IT'S WHAT I DO 8)

Sweet! I'll keep these comments in mind if that ever gets underway, and we'll see if I can't adapt to your playing style, haha.

VANESSA AND URSA WILL BECOME BFFS AMIRITE

Take one "it's definitely something I can work on", rinse, and repeat x10,000

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[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-02 03:47 pm UTC (link)
GOD CHANGE YOUR ICON OR SOMETHING I'LL BRB SHITTING MY PANTS!


Next time, I won't be too chickenshit to come to you with anything .But like I said, your playing is excellent. Again, there's not many people who can pull off something involving general askew mentality like paranoia (Kat does this well with Birkin, too) or a possible depletion of chemicals in the brain. From what I can gather, she had a shitty childhood and was under a lot of stress from a very young age, which is spurring on her cracking, or what you call her "slipping." I'm really hoping that somehow, someway, once she's done with the whole brainwashing thing that her and Vanessa can actually hang out. She doesn't have anything against her, really. I mean, c'mon, if she can't bring herself to hate Wesker after all the shit he's thrown her way, Azula is nothing.


YES THEY WILL.

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[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-02 03:52 pm UTC (link)
IT'S NOT MY FAULT I HAD TO DELETE MY SOMEWHAT NORMAL-LOOKING ICONS TO MAKE ROOM FOR MORE SCARY

She won't be in a good enough state to hang out right after it's all done, but maybe later on...? :D That'd be awesome; I really love their conversations/interactions with each other.

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[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-02 03:56 pm UTC (link)
DON'T MAKE ME BUY YOU MORE USERPIC TIME. BECAUSE I SO FUCKING WILL. JUST ASK BELA, CHIBIUSA, OR BIRKIN. I'm so sweet, aaaw. ~<3


Vanessa really just wants to show her what it means to be HAPPY. She knows she probably won't ever understand about how loving her environment at her work is or anything, or about how happy she is and why, but she'd like to show Azula a funny movie, or a shitty horror movie so they can mock it's inane nature the entire time. I'm looking at Anaconda with J-Lo here. That movie is so bad it's epic it's in own right. Or let her have some music, even. She's got a pretty eclectic collection and doesn't mind sharing in the least. Or give her sex ed like she did to Kasumi FML :|

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[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-02 03:57 pm UTC (link)
I ALREADY HAVE THE MAXIMUM D: I WISH THEY LET PAY FOR MORE THAN 100 THOUGH BECAUSE I HAVE 167 AZULA!RP ICONS SAVED ON MY COMPUTER SAFDSFSADJK

Do you know what MST3K is? They so need to watch it together. :| Azula would. Walk out of the room ahahaha.

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[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-02 03:59 pm UTC (link)
DAMN IT.


Yeah, I so do. I love that show so much. That's what me and my friends do, and Vanessa does that shit too. See her RL with Blackout if you don't believe me. :|


I'll bbl, we can talk more if you want.

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[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-02 04:01 pm UTC (link)
I KNOW RIGHT. Permanent accounts have have up to 195 userpics or something; they should let you buy that much for paid accounts. D:

I love MSTing stuff. :| Best pastime ever.

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[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-02 06:10 pm UTC (link)
I only have 114 at my journal, and 103 on this one, baaaw.


Cha, totes.

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look who it is again.
[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-08 04:53 pm UTC (link)
The reason I asked you in PM the other day if Azula was getting another virus soon was because I was thinking this:


Don't you think you're putting her through a little much too often? I used to have this nasty habit of getting one of my characters involved in every curse and everything like that. It got so taxing on the character that I totally lost his voice in the game and couldn't do anything but drop.


What I guess I'm saying is...maybe stop getting her involved in shit that hurts her so much and makes her go insane on a weekly basis? When I first came here, there was the thing with Ozai, and then Eris had her speaking everything without meaning to, and then the Eris curse where she thought she was adopted by Cuddy and House, and now the thing with that doctor lady? I know I'm missing something else, I just can't recall...


What I'm saying is...I think...that you're putting her through the ringer far too often. I'd like to see Azula in a more sort of natural environment instead of being constantly plagued in drama and the like, just for...shits and giggles? I mean, like, I had Vanessa involved in one curse. It's been about...what...two and a half months since I joined, and, like, I never see Azula involved with much of anything outside of curses and Shit Going Down.


I'm not like...well. I'm not trying to get onto you or anything...but don't you think it's just a leetle much to be putting her through this sort of stuff on a constant basis? It's...taxing on you and your character, I know but...I'm worried you'll lose her if you don't stop throwing curses and viruses her way at every turn, you know?

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[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-08 05:10 pm UTC (link)
... Would you believe me if I said that I've actually been thinking about this myself? XD After the Ozai thing I wasn't really planning on doing anything specific, but then Lylith came up for the idea for the Eris thing and then right after that Yue asked me if I wanted to do something with Tenenbaum and dasdfjk. Yeah. And that's not even counting the comm-wide viruses, haha. So I completely get what you're saying and I promise that I'm not going to be getting into the whole "SOMETHING BIG ALWAYS HAS TO BE GOING ON OMFG" mindset. If someone comes up with something that they want me to participate in after the Tenenbaum thing is over (which I'm thinking will only last for a few days), I'm... probably going to say no, or ask if we could hold off a bit. :P

But as for the "insanity on a weekly basis" thing... I'm kind of playing her mindset as similar to how she after the canon episode "The Boiling Rock" (if you've seen the show; if you haven't, that reference won't make any sense DX), so she's not just going to clear up and go back to normal any time soon-- that is, even if the Eris plot and the Tenenbaum plot hadn't happened, she'd still be stuck in this mode. If that's one of the things that you have a problem with, I'd love to hear some crit on that, too! <3

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you get a scary icon in return :|
[info]angledtwat777
2009-07-08 05:21 pm UTC (link)
Hmm...sounds a little like...I don't know, maybe people are just wanting your character to get involved with them so much because crazy!Azula is a shitton of fun to mock, degrade, or otherwise try to ruin any good mood she actually may be able to achieve were she not going through more stress than a Burger King worker during a hurricane evacuation (lol yes I totally had to do that and I thought I was going to die because I couldn't keep up as much as I usually could 8B). I mean, sure, it's fun to have fun with the crazies, but really, all I've seen of her in my time here is drama and angst and the like. No, I don't know the episode you're talking about...but don't you think you've been given a good opportunity in game to make her more than constantly dramatic and up in arms? I think someone said something like this IC about how (maybe Karen, idk) she was spreading her family drama all over the place so much that it couldn't be ignored? I mean, I love reading your posts and your comments and tags and the like—otherwise I wouldn't be here baw—but it's like...drama is fun, angst is fun, I know that firsthand. (Lol Vanessa hopping worlds so she doesn't have to deal with Wesker out for her blood baw). I know, canonly, she's a bitch and a looney, but uh...maybe you could explore a bit of a different, deeper part of her as opposed to just being put through shit on a regular basis? It would be more than nice to see to see a post from her that wasn't always something like...just being cursed, you know?


Yeah, I know. I've been approached a few times about how this person has an idea for a curse, something to throw a wrench in her gears—Birkin's daughter, Sherry, is now on the community, which means Vanessa's reached critical mass and doesn't know what to do—but...am I making sense here? She's a lot of fun to play with, but I think that you're like...giving into her insane side too much, and eventually, if you keep doing that, you may just lose her voice, be at a complete loss of what to do with her, etc., etc.

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JUST LET ME USE MY DEFAULT IN PEACE BAWWW
[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-08 05:54 pm UTC (link)
Eh, that's possible, but I think it's just people wanting to get their characters involved. The thing with Ozai (though actually, now that I think about it, I'm not sure which thing you mean with Ozai-- are you referring to the initial plot where he tried to have her assassinated, or the one where Eris had him brainwashed and Azula started going back to the Fire Nation?) happened more because we wanted to further our sort of AU-esque canon a bit, and because Ozai's reaction to the whole community and his and Azula's headbutting over it just seemed like the IC thing to do. And as for the plot with Tenenbaum, she was just apped, so I totally understand Yue wanting to do something with her.

As for toning down the insanity, I'm... kind of at a loss as to how to normalize her from this so quickly without veering into OOC territory? Now, a lot of that might be because I'm still getting used to playing her after the whole "lol my entire world fell apart around me yay" thing that started after Ozai kicked her out of the Fire Nation, and so I'm hoping that that'll seem to come more naturally after I've been doing it for a little while longer (seriously, you should have seen the way I played her when I first picked her up; OH MY GOD I was awful, and no that was not an invitation to go back and look DX) But yeah, I'm really hesitant to just make her come out of it so easily and be "normal" again (either normal the way she was before, or ~*healed*~ normal), because viruses and events or not, she's an incredibly intense character who is obsessed with winning/being the best/etc. to the point where it's unnatural, ridiculous, and incredibly unhealthy-- and losing not only that, but pretty much her entire life as well, is such an epically huge blow. I guess I've just read too many fanfics where it only takes her a few months post-war for her to be all, "oh, okay, I guess I'm just going to accept the fact that I lost the war and my brother (or in this case, father) took over for me; I'll just have to accept my new role as a 'peasant'!", and that sort of reaction personally seems off to me. I know that's not necessarily what you're suggesting I do, but I'm still really hesitant to have her "just get over it".

But I'm not planning on constant OMG DRAMA, and I'm definitely going to be exploring reactions to things besides just being angry all the time (though for a little while she probably... will be angry pretty much all the time, but not always in the same antagonistic way-- er, if that makes sense).


TL;DR: Most of the stress she's going through now would have been there whether all the other stuff would have happened or not, because nothing that's happened even comes close to comparing to the whole "loss of life as she knows it" thing. So, uh. If you have more crit on that I'll definitely read and consider it the way I have with the rest of this, but the "crazy" (or whatever you want to call it) isn't just going to all go away once the events have played through. (The tonnage of drama will, though; I promise. ;D)

... I hope I'm making sense. XD If there's anything you want to contest or something you want me to explain better, please tell me! <3

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NO.
[info]angledtwat777
2009-07-08 05:58 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I understand how she wouldn't just "get over it" in a week or so. I'm just afraid you'll end up losing her and she'll just slip into...kind of a stereotypical villain who just hates losing and the like? I really like her, I just don't want to see her getting...to whatever. I don't even know, I'm so tried myself, Jesus Christ.


tl;dr keep rocking, but hold off on more curses and stuff?

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Re: NO.
[info]angledtwat777
2009-07-08 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Lol tired. Not tried. WTF.

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Re: NO.
[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-08 06:04 pm UTC (link)
I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT XD

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:|
[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-08 06:09 pm UTC (link)
Will do! 8) We have the Fear Toxin plot in August, but other than that I'm going to make a plan to stay out of being "affected" by potentially traumatic things, and hopefully I'll stick to it. I do try to participate in all the viruses that sound interesting because you never know when they're going to roll around again but asdfsjfk.

Considering how much I hate stereotypical villains and "evil" characters, I really hope I don't slip in that. XD If anything, I'm not playing her as "crazy" as she was by canon's end (she was having HALLUCINATIONS AND SHIT fasdfjk), because there are a few ways in which her DDD!life has gotten better than her canon!life. But, yeah. I'm going to try my best to reconcile canon with character development, and if it seems flat at first, I hope I'll improve as I get used to playing her in a semi-post-canon mindset.

ALSO DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW AWESOME YOU ARE? Srsly. Srsly.

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8)
[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-08 06:13 pm UTC (link)
Pffft how in hell am I awesome :|

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OKAY FINE DIFFERENT ICON
[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-08 06:21 pm UTC (link)
You're the only person who's ever used my crit post in like... a year and two months, and I seriously, seriously doubt that you're the only person who's ever had any sort of issue with my play. :P

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OH NICE, ONE OF THE YOU'RE STUPID ONES :|
[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-08 06:22 pm UTC (link)
Huh, well. That's...cool I guess. :|

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IT'S A SHRUG, DON'T COMPLAIN
[info]peoplesprincess
2009-07-08 06:25 pm UTC (link)
You're awesome in other ways too, obviously, but that's the one that's jumping out at me most right now. XD

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I'LL COMPLAIN ALL I WANT, BIA.
[info]vanessa19white
2009-07-08 06:51 pm UTC (link)
Ego = massively stroked~

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